Wawrinka

[GeoffWilliams]

Wawrinka's grip:

He uses two over grips, which would bump up total mass by 12g, and affect swing weight as well. Note the thick 1/4" over lap.

[GeoffWilliams]

I believe it's about 360g strung. Fed won't play the french. Djokovic's wrist will still be hurt. Nadal is the biggest threat still. Anyone winning the french will have to take his short shots and gun them first to Nadal's fh side, and then the bh off the next short ball.

[stroke]

Btw, do you know why so many pros lower their tension on their crosses by 4-5lbs? That allows for less tension on the mains, allowing for more snap back, less friction stopping snap back, but you don't want too much, or the ball will leave the bed before the string tells it to. That timing is what feel is all about.


That string loses tension fast, esp. for big (god like hitters). It's only good for 20 minutes, and its nubs wear off in that time as well, so the spin effect goes away once they do, and spin is king on clay. I don't advocate lowering tension on clay. (Look what that did for Sampras.) He only made one french semi, at the age of 20 or so. As far as his frame, I'd prefer him to use a 98 sq. in. frame, 18/20, ra of 65, 22mm beam width, mass of 365g. The yonex v core specs:

98 sq. in. / 632.26 sq. cm.
Length: 27in / 68.58cm
Strung Weight: 11.3oz / 320.35g Not his
Balance: 6 pts HL
Swingweight: 309 Not his.
Stiffness: 65
Beam Width: 22.5mm / 22.5mm / 22mm /
Composition: H.M. Graphite / X-Fullerene
Power Level: Low-Medium
Stroke Style: Full
Swing Speed: Fast
Racquet Colors:
Red / White / Black
Grip Type: Yonex Synthetic Grip
String Pattern:
16 Mains / 20 Crosses
Mains skip: 8T, 8H
Two Pieces
No Shared Holes
String Tension: 50-65 pounds

So he's pretty close to what I'd recommend. I called fed's change months before he made it, while Annacone was outwardly saying that people recommending fed to switch to a larger frame, higher tension didn't know what they were talking about! See my thread here: Hey, federer-er-er, adapt or die!

http://www.tennisplayer.net/bulletin/showthread.php?t=2467

Waw's bh is an argument for the one hander being more viable than the two hander. Too many people believe, that due to the extra strength needed for high bh shots, on the deltoids, that it's not viable. I call him to be #1 at the end of the year, and to win the french.

Jeff, do you know Stans

racquet weight and swing weight?

[stotty]

Just like teaching serve and volley...

Probably and even tougher hurdle...

[klacr]

Just like teaching serve and volley...

Yes Phil. It's also knowing how to teach it. But I think both will be coming back in the future.


Kyle LaCroix USPTA
Boca Raton

[gzhpcu]

Coaches teach the two-hander by default. It's tough to sell the one hander to the parents as it takes longer to develop, so match results aren't forthcoming. Getting non-tennis-playing parents to understand the long term benefits of the one hander can be a tough hurdle to get over.

Just like teaching serve and volley...

[stotty]

That being said it takes a kid and parents with thick skin to develop a one hander. It is just so hard for them when they are short and weak. But, they get the chance to develop other intangibles that two handers don't.

Coaches teach the two-hander by default. It's tough to sell the one hander to the parents as it takes longer to develop, so match results aren't forthcoming. Getting non-tennis-playing parents to understand the long term benefits of the one hander can be a tough hurdle to get over.

[lobndropshot]

Waw's bh is an argument for the one hander being more viable than the two hander. Too many people believe, that due to the extra strength needed for high bh shots, on the deltoids, that it's not viable. I call him to be #1 at the end of the year, and to win the french.

I hope he will be #1 and win the French.

I have a one hander as well and I have never felt overpowered by a two hander. In fact, I felt that it gave me a movement advantage over most two handers that I have faced.

That being said it takes a kid and parents with thick skin to develop a one hander. It is just so hard for them when they are short and weak. But, they get the chance to develop other intangibles that two handers don't.

[GeoffWilliams]

Geoff,

Taking notice to Wawrinka's string set up. RPM Blast at 59.5lbs/55lbs at 16 gauge. For his Yonex frame and game, is that what you would recommend? Probably lower for the clay season no?

Kyle LaCroix USPTA
Boca Raton

Btw, do you know why so many pros lower their tension on their crosses by 4-5lbs? That allows for less tension on the mains, allowing for more snap back, less friction stopping snap back, but you don't want too much, or the ball will leave the bed before the string tells it to. That timing is what feel is all about.


That string loses tension fast, esp. for big (god like hitters). It's only good for 20 minutes, and its nubs wear off in that time as well, so the spin effect goes away once they do, and spin is king on clay. I don't advocate lowering tension on clay. (Look what that did for Sampras.) He only made one french semi, at the age of 20 or so. As far as his frame, I'd prefer him to use a 98 sq. in. frame, 18/20, ra of 65, 22mm beam width, mass of 365g. The yonex v core specs:

98 sq. in. / 632.26 sq. cm.
Length: 27in / 68.58cm
Strung Weight: 11.3oz / 320.35g Not his
Balance: 6 pts HL
Swingweight: 309 Not his.
Stiffness: 65
Beam Width: 22.5mm / 22.5mm / 22mm /
Composition: H.M. Graphite / X-Fullerene
Power Level: Low-Medium
Stroke Style: Full
Swing Speed: Fast
Racquet Colors:
Red / White / Black
Grip Type: Yonex Synthetic Grip
String Pattern:
16 Mains / 20 Crosses
Mains skip: 8T, 8H
Two Pieces
No Shared Holes
String Tension: 50-65 pounds

So he's pretty close to what I'd recommend. I called fed's change months before he made it, while Annacone was outwardly saying that people recommending fed to switch to a larger frame, higher tension didn't know what they were talking about! See my thread here: Hey, federer-er-er, adapt or die!

http://www.tennisplayer.net/bulletin/showthread.php?t=2467

Waw's bh is an argument for the one hander being more viable than the two hander. Too many people believe, that due to the extra strength needed for high bh shots, on the deltoids, that it's not viable. I call him to be #1 at the end of the year, and to win the french.

[klacr]

Geoff,

Taking notice to Wawrinka's string set up. RPM Blast at 59.5lbs/55lbs at 16 gauge. For his Yonex frame and game, is that what you would recommend? Probably lower for the clay season no?

Kyle LaCroix USPTA
Boca Raton

[GeoffWilliams]

So much better than Fed's bh. His hitting foot has so much more weight/ground on it than fed does, as Fed lifts his heel up way too soon, and degrounds himself. A sure sign of lack of confidence.


That's 59.4/55lbs with rpm blast.

EVen though he runs around his bh, the winners he hits are often balanced, while hitting way fewer bhs, than fhs.

[klacr]

It's a gorgeous shot no doubt. The deep turn, the racquet head set up, tip pointing vertical, then an acceleration into that ball. It's got the pace and spin to remind you of most players forehands. In fact, it's although Wawrinka has two forehands. This one-handed backhand has certainly brought the shot back to life in the mind of fans, players and coaches. And that's a great thing.

Kyle LaCroix USPTA
Boca Raton

[captnemo]

yes wapow sums that one up.

[lobndropshot]

https://www.tennisplayer.net/tp_player/stan-wawrinka/

Wapow!!! I am going to hit some tomorrow.

[GeoffWilliams]

I hit some Wawrinka back hands today. Huge coils, bent knee, full ripping shots. Heavy balls. The L-tec string I am using favors big cuts. Fun at cal edwards stadium. Peter Wright was there teaching his son how to serve.