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  • John Yandell
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    You can for more topspin and to bring the ball down. Common at higher levels. At the club level you could also just hit a moon ball.

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    Should players use windshield wiper method on shoulder high balls/drives as well?

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  • ralph
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    Thanks for the follow up. Much appreciated.

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  • John Yandell
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    Ralph,
    I've defined it in a specific way as the forward and outward extension of the swing. Here are two articles that give my view of it.

    https://www.tennisplayer.net/members...ard_swing.html
    https://www.tennisplayer.net/members/teaching_systems/john_yandell/forehand_forward_swing/

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  • bottle
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    I always think that "extension" is one of the slipperier terms in tennis instruction. Does the extension come from elbow moving away from the bod or arm extending at the elbow or from something the bod is doing? Further, could the extension take place when the racket is behind the bod? Does it take place in front of the bod? Is good extension something static that has been established earlier in the cycle? Or is it something kinetic that happens while one is hitting the ball? I guess that instructors other than myself don't care enough about these questions and still others involving the slippery term. But as a tennis student I find such sloppy carelessness reprehensible. I'd much prefer to blame instructors and tennis students other than myself, don't you know. And I dare anybody to take a shot, without rancor, at answering the technical questions in this post.

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  • John Yandell
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    Ralph,
    Come to the USPTA convention! I do it based on extension and rotation of the hand!

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  • ralph
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    John,
    Would love to see you teaching the windshield to someone. I have come across a few methods. Some emphasize rotating the butt cap, some the forearm rotation, some the tip of the racquet, some getting the face of the racquet down at the end of extension and then finishing the shoulder rotation. I have gotten a lot from your presentation, but seeing it taught might clear up some uncertainty.
    Just a suggestion.

    Ralph

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  • bottle
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    Originally posted by nickw View Post
    Expanding what Kyle said, if mechanics are correct before and during contact, the hitting arm is loose and relaxed, and the racket is accelerating, then for me, the wiper (along with all other elements of the follow through) will happen naturally, as a consequence of the preceding action.
    I like this idea but wonder if one can't consciously add to the strength of the wipe too. In any case, those unable to master the wipe (anyone up to a 4.5 in one TV-broadcast view from Jimmy Arias) should know there is another alternative to hitting flat. That would be, in my view, first getting the racket into effective position (part of developing momentum) and then a ripping lift of the elbow straight ahead with knuckles returning to opposite ear.

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  • nickw
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    Yep, really good article John, doing a great job of unraveling the confusion that surrounds the windshield wiper!

    Thoughts from anyone about how much attention players should actually give to developing the wiper specifically, and its many variations?

    Expanding what Kyle said, if mechanics are correct before and during contact, the hitting arm is loose and relaxed, and the racket is accelerating, then for me, the wiper (along with all other elements of the follow through) will happen naturally, as a consequence of the preceding action.

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  • klacr
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    When you do the fundamentals right, other elements become more natural and effective. The windshield wiper is an element and a key visual cue for the astute eye, or better yet, video.

    Great video for the June issue. And much like bdole, I look forward to the bent vs. straight forehand video.

    Kyle LaCroix USPTA
    Boca Raton

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  • kenh
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    Good job John. You have the best tennis website going today.

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  • bdole
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    Very compelling footage as always, John. I see a universal thread amongst these ATP players of bringing a stable arm/racquet structure towards contact and then releasing into the wiper motion you've detailed here. The extension and angle of the wiper can be adjusted as needed for each shot.

    I'm excited for your teased video of Bent vs. Straight arm, but this video seems to illustrate it's just individual preference. The hitting arm releases to a similar position for both forehand types during the wiper.

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