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  • stroke
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 5156

    #16
    Sheldon probably has the best serve left in the tournament. Tiafoe up 2 sets to 1 on Mannarino. Quite the contrast in outfits of those 2. I like Mannarino's much better. Nike is out of control on some of these kits.

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    • stotty
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 6629

      #17
      Originally posted by jimlosaltos
      If I'm reading this right, and please correct me if not (it's hard to read US O draw without numbers/ splits for quarters), Taylor Fritz is only two unseeded players away from meeting Djokovic.

      Conversely, Fritz is the ONLY top 30 ranked player left in Djokovic's side. Not one single player in Djokovic's quarter was won a single match against him. Feels almost like the old Wimbledon challenge format where everyone else plays to meet the reigning champ, who only has to play the final -- except Alcaraz is the champ.

      Hope Fritz makes it exciting.

      I think -- think -- Tstisipas was the only player in Djokovic's half that had won a single match against him (2-11 H2H) and his last win was 10 losses ago.

      Every other player that was beaten Djokovic was stuffed in the top, Alcaraz half. Medy 5 wins, Zverev 4 wins, etc. for a total of perhaps 29-30 wins vs Djoko in the other half.

      Bizarre draw.
      Sadly I am seeing very little of this year's US OPEN as I cannot take out yet another subscription to watch tennis. I have four subscriptions already!

      I agree about the lopsided draw. It's rather suspicious in my view. Roger got the same easy road time and time again in slams. Seems like organisers are trying to push the big names through at times...put bums on seats I guess. No evidence...just saying.
      Stotty

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      • jimlosaltos
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 4125

        #18
        Originally posted by stroke
        Sheldon probably has the best serve left in the tournament. Tiafoe up 2 sets to 1 on Mannarino. Quite the contrast in outfits of those 2. I like Mannarino's much better. Nike is out of control on some of these kits.
        And Ben is a lefty !

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        • jimlosaltos
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 4125

          #19
          P.S. The correlation between high service speed and actually winning matches continues to decline precipitously. Which is a mixed bag IMHO.

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          • stroke
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 5156

            #20
            Tiafoe gets through in 4 before a very raucous Big Foe(as he likes to call himself ha) crowd. Very entertaining match. Mannarino to me a very watchable player. He has such efficient minimalist technique.

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            • jimlosaltos
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 4125

              #21
              As a change of pace .... apparently the smell of marijuna from the fans and the park is so strong, players are complaining about it.

              On court 17, "It's like Snoop Dogs' dressing room."


              It’s become a stink at the U.S. Open: a pungent marijuana smell that wafted over an outer court, clouded the concentration of one of the world’s top players and left the impression there’s no place left to escape the unofficial scent of the city. While the exact source of the smell remained a mystery Tuesday, one thing was clear: Court 17, where eighth-seeded Maria Sakkari complained about an overwhelming whiff of pot during her first-round loss, has become notorious among players in recent years for its distinctive, unmistakable odor.

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              • jimlosaltos
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 4125

                #22
                Originally posted by stotty

                Sadly I am seeing very little of this year's US OPEN as I cannot take out yet another subscription to watch tennis. I have four subscriptions already!

                I agree about the lopsided draw. It's rather suspicious in my view. Roger got the same easy road time and time again in slams. Seems like organisers are trying to push the big names through at times...put bums on seats I guess. No evidence...just saying.
                That's a shame. Lots of highlights on YouTube, though.

                Yes, unbalanced draws aren't new. Some recent ones have been head scratchers, though.

                So, I Searched.

                Here are the times have the Big 3 gotten to a Slam final without meeting a top-20 foe

                Nadal: 3 (2010 RG, 2017 US, 2019 US)
                Federer: 2 (2008 RG, 2008 W)
                Djokovic: 1 (2019 W)​

                One can only play who shows up, but Rafa's 2017 US Open win was historic, not in a good way.

                "Nadal's 2017 US Open title came against an historically weak field, weakest by rank of opponents, since 32 seed instituted."

                Finals - Anderson Rank Dowload your Quicktime message?
                Semis - Delpo 28
                Quarters - Rubelv 53
                R16 - Dolgopolov 65
                R32 Mayer 59
                R64 Daniel 121
                R128 Lajovic 85


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                • stroke
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 5156

                  #23
                  Alcaraz vs pugnacious Dan Evans, Grigor vs Zverev, and Stan vs Sinner today. Stricker was impressive again yesterday in his win over Bonzi. He reminds be a bit of Herni Leconte. He is a lefty with not a particularly athletic build and a very live arm.

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                  • stroke
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 5156

                    #24
                    Holger Rune has had a turbulent summer, and he's been forced to make a highly important decision regarding his coaching situation. On Thursday, Rune's mother - Aneke - revealed ego clashes between Run...

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                    • stotty
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 6629

                      #25
                      Interesting that Jiri Vesely is 2-0 in head to head matches against Novak. If both players get through their next matches they will meet again in round four. A slam, of course, is a different proposition altogether but at least it gives spectators a straw to clutch at.
                      Stotty

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                      • jimlosaltos
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 4125

                        #26
                        Djokovic comebacks from two sets down:

                        2005 Wimbledon 2R - vs Garcia-Lopez
                        2011 US Open SF - vs Federer
                        2012 RG 4R - vs Seppi
                        2015 Wimbledon 4R - vs Anderson
                        2021 RG 4R - vs Musetti
                        2021 RG Final - vs Tsitsipas
                        2022 Wimbledon QF - vs Sinner
                        2023 USOpen 3R - vs Djere​

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                        • stroke
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 5156

                          #27
                          Originally posted by jimlosaltos
                          Djokovic comebacks from two sets down:

                          2005 Wimbledon 2R - vs Garcia-Lopez
                          2011 US Open SF - vs Federer
                          2012 RG 4R - vs Seppi
                          2015 Wimbledon 4R - vs Anderson
                          2021 RG 4R - vs Musetti
                          2021 RG Final - vs Tsitsipas
                          2022 Wimbledon QF - vs Sinner
                          2023 USOpen 3R - vs Djere​
                          Federer and Nadal never just let a set go. Novak is a completely different story. But he can lock it down when he wants to like no one ever.

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                          • stroke
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 5156

                            #28


                            Latest updated betting odds to win tournament.

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                            • stroke
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 5156

                              #29
                              The tournament schedulers have done themselves a real disservice putting 2 clearly Stadium 1 matches, Stan vs Sinner, and Grigor vs Zverev, on Stadium 2. It is just embarrassing watching all the fans try to flock to the smaller venue. The whole tournament vibe will be at these 2 matches no doubt.
                              Last edited by stroke; 09-02-2023, 12:15 PM.

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                              • stotty
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 6629

                                #30
                                Originally posted by stroke
                                The tournament schedulers have done themselves a real disservice putting 2 clearly Stadium 1 matches, Stan vs Sinner, and Grigor vs Zverev, on Stadium 2. It is just embarrassing watching all the fans try to flock to the smaller venue. The whole tournament vibe will be at these 2 matches no doubt.
                                Tend to agree. Organisers don't have too much the play when it comes to box office and cannot afford to make slip ups like those two. There is only one big match in town at the moment (Novak and Carlos) and it's crucial to dovetail the supporting acts on the right courts at the right time so tennis is promoted to the maximum. Wimbledon has screwed up here and there like this too.
                                Stotty

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