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  • stroke
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 5156

    #1

    Madrid ATP 1000

    https://www.atptour.com/en/news/madr...w-preview-2024
  • jimlosaltos
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 4151

    #2
    17 yo Joao Fonseca vs 19 yo Alex Michelson might be an intriguing first rounder. {Rechecks ATP site, "is he really only 17?}

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    • stroke
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 5156

      #3
      Originally posted by jimlosaltos
      17 yo Joao Fonseca vs 19 yo Alex Michelson might be an intriguing first rounder. {Rechecks ATP site, "is he really only 17?}
      It is a very interesting matchup. I like Fonseca.

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      • jimlosaltos
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 4151

        #4
        Given how hard it is to watch tennis on the Caja M?gica now, I imagine it is a bit difficult to play good tennis as well.

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        • jimlosaltos
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 4151

          #5
          ATP Tennis Insight notes that serves are more important in Madrid, at altitude.

          Here is it's trailing 52 week service ratings. Second image is their definition of the stat.

          Hubi remains on top, followed by Fritz, Shelton, and Tsitsipas. Stef being there despite his obvious serve struggles -- changing motion from point to point for a while, is surprising.

          Sinner has plummeted to near the tour average, basically level with Demon. I'm surprised. This data does go back to before he turned to Sinner 3.0 motion, but the statistically difference hasn't been enormous. Confused?

          Alcaraz's continues to struggle - at least by the standard of a recent world number one player.

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          • jimlosaltos
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 4151

            #6
            Have not yet seen but am hearing great things about Shang v Moutet.
            Juncheng "Jerry" Shang over Corentin Moutet 7-6(9) 2-6 7-6(10) in 3 hours 59 minutes.

            When fellow players post about a match:
            Dennis Shapovalov:
            Insane tennis Jerry and Corentin fun to watch​

            Damian Kust of Cracked Rackets.
            Moutet vs Shang was absurd, 3 hours and 59 minutes. Racket falling out of Co's hand serving at 5-all in the final TB (serve was in, so was the return but he had nothing to play it back with), dead net cord MP save. Jerry kept hitting incredible FHs and won 7-6(10) in the 3rd.​

            From Oleg S/Twitter:
            Shang v Moutet... Wow! Another match that won't make 'Best of the Year' list because it's only 1R between two lower ranked players but absolutely should. The deciding tiebreak alone was something else. The 5-5 point. The netcord on one of MPs... Basically, every other point​

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            • stroke
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 5156

              #7
              Originally posted by jimlosaltos
              Have not yet seen but am hearing great things about Shang v Moutet.
              Juncheng "Jerry" Shang over Corentin Moutet 7-6(9) 2-6 7-6(10) in 3 hours 59 minutes.

              When fellow players post about a match:
              Dennis Shapovalov:
              Insane tennis Jerry and Corentin fun to watch​

              Damian Kust of Cracked Rackets.
              Moutet vs Shang was absurd, 3 hours and 59 minutes. Racket falling out of Co's hand serving at 5-all in the final TB (serve was in, so was the return but he had nothing to play it back with), dead net cord MP save. Jerry kept hitting incredible FHs and won 7-6(10) in the 3rd.​

              From Oleg S/Twitter:
              Shang v Moutet... Wow! Another match that won't make 'Best of the Year' list because it's only 1R between two lower ranked players but absolutely should. The deciding tiebreak alone was something else. The 5-5 point. The netcord on one of MPs... Basically, every other point​
              I saw the last 1/3 or so of the match. Moutet was in a very testy mood out there, creating a lot of annoying drama out there. It was a good match. Moutet refused to shake hands with the Chair Umpire after the match. He is a prickly little guy.

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              • jimlosaltos
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 4151

                #8
                Originally posted by stroke

                I saw the last 1/3 or so of the match. Moutet was in a very testy mood out there, creating a lot of annoying drama out there. It was a good match. Moutet refused to shake hands with the Chair Umpire after the match. He is a prickly little guy.
                Finally got to watch the end myself. Moutet is, as you say, "prickly". On the other hand, he must have ice water in his veins to hit a tape-skimming drop shot on match point against - and make it.

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                • stroke
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 5156

                  #9


                  Fonseca looks like the real deal.

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                  • stroke
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 5156

                    #10


                    Odds to win Madrid.

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                    • jimlosaltos
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 4151

                      #11
                      Originally posted by stroke
                      https://photos.app.goo.gl/5AXotcKxG4k3LpZ98

                      Fonseca looks like the real deal.
                      Indeed. 17 year old ( seventeen ! ) beat NextGen'er Alex Michelson 4-6 6-0 6-2 to win his first Masters 1000 match.
                      Per the ATP stats, Fonseca's serve reached 138 MPH.
                      Not bad for a 162 lb teenager

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                      • stroke
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 5156

                        #12


                        Match of the day was Rune over Navone. That's all it took, 3 hours to move onto the 3rd round.

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                        • stroke
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 5156

                          #13
                          Matches of the day tomorrow, Nadal vs demon, Norrie vs Fonseca. Demon and Norrie are the favorites. I like Fonseca in an upset.

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                          • stroke
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 5156

                            #14


                            First time in 4 years Tsitsipas goes out in his first match of a clay court tournament. Monteiro, number 118 world ranking, played one of his best matches ever and really wore out the Tsitsipas backhand with his lefty forehand.
                            Last edited by stroke; 04-27-2024, 05:13 AM.

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                            • stotty
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 6634

                              #15
                              Rafa wins the first set against the Demon but he is far, far from his best.
                              Stotty

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