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  • jimlosaltos
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 4150

    #1

    Barcelona, Munich

    Zverev had a tough comeback win over Tallon Griekspoor (who somewhat quietly has one of the best forehands on the tour) in Munich.
    Ben Shelton looms.

    de Minaur broke Alcaraz early, but from then on the Spaniard cruised in a stylish match.

    Tsitsipas retired vs Fils with an apparent recurrent of a back injury. Sounds threatening

    Ruud over Rune. No word if Holger behaved.
  • neilchok
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2024
    • 114

    #2
    I think I saw Rune's mom there. Sometimes I guess the parents do help.

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    • jimlosaltos
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 4150

      #3
      Two interesting finals coming up tomorrow/ Sunday.

      Munich; Zverev vs Shelton. I'm surprised they've only met once before, with the German winning a tough match, from down a set and needing a second set tiebreak.
      I suspect the clay favors Zverev, and Ben's left serve is unlikely to dent Zverev's backhand.

      Barcelona: Alcaraz vs Rune. Tomorrow's Barcelona final features Carlos Alcaraz, the only player on tour to have won even 9 games in a row this year {How can that be true? But who am I to question the ATP's stats?} vs a suddenly resurgent Holger Rune. Rune beat Alcaraz by retirement during the Dane's break out run to the Paris/ Bercy title in 2022, but Spainaird leads 2-1 overall, most recently a straight sets win in the 2023 Wimbledon quarterfinals.​

      Rune got here by overcoming arch-nemesis Casper Ruud, who held a 6-1 H2H edge. But Rune easily topped his Norwegian rival this week. Ruud is trying to change his game from playing defense behind some of the biggest topspin on tour, to being more offensive. That's been going well but played right into the younger Rune's hands. Rune is frequently impatient, leading to going for winners from losing positions. But he fed off Ruud pace, repeatedly going for winners early and hitting a number of blistering, down-the-line backhands.​

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      • stroke
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 5156

        #4
        Zverev and Alcaraz are both strong favorites with both having an implied probability of winning at about 83%.

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        • stroke
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 5156

          #5
          Zverev really locked in, up 6-2, 4-3 and serving.

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          • jimlosaltos
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 4150

            #6
            Rune with huge title win over Alcaraz on clay. Has to put him in the discussion for the French.

            Rune went bold on the first set breaker and took it. Both players earned 5 breakers, but Rune converted 3, Carlos just one.

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            • jimlosaltos
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              • Jan 2011
              • 4150

              #7
              Zverev with solid win over Ben Shelton. Never faced a break point.

              While you might expect that on clay, the difference on serve stands out. When does Ben get the results one would think his service merits?

              While first-serve won % differential is perhaps exaggerated because Zverev is an excellent returner and Ben, to be mild, is not. Still 89% vs 72% for the German.

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              • stroke
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 5156

                #8
                Originally posted by jimlosaltos
                Rune with huge title win over Alcaraz on clay. Has to put him in the discussion for the French.

                Rune went bold on the first set breaker and took it. Both players earned 5 breakers, but Rune converted 3, Carlos just one.

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                Certainly the biggest win for Rune in a while. Did not see that coming. Zverev played as good as I have ever seen him. His winners to errors for the match was top shelf.

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                • glacierguy
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 411

                  #9
                  Did anyone hear what Alcaraz's injury was in second set of final? Or was he just trying to change the rhythm of the match?

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                  • stotty
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 6634

                    #10
                    Not sure about Carlos's injury as I only saw the first half of the second set. I have never see Rune play as well as that. He kept the match really tight, which is a requirement when playing Carlos because, usually, Carlos will always leak untimely and costly errors somewhere along the way. This is how Novak plays Carlos, by pressurising and keeping things really tight.
                    Stotty

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                    • neilchok
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2024
                      • 114

                      #11
                      Why does whenever any player lose in a tight match against their rival, it immediately comes out that person was injured. It can never be that the other player just won and you lost.

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                      • jimlosaltos
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 4150

                        #12
                        Originally posted by glacierguy
                        Did anyone hear what Alcaraz's injury was in second set of final? Or was he just trying to change the rhythm of the match?
                        He had his thigh worked on. That's all I know.

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                        • jimlosaltos
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 4150

                          #13
                          Originally posted by stotty
                          Not sure about Carlos's injury as I only saw the first half of the second set. I have never see Rune play as well as that. He kept the match really tight, which is a requirement when playing Carlos because, usually, Carlos will always leak untimely and costly errors somewhere along the way. This is how Novak plays Carlos, by pressurising and keeping things really tight.
                          First set was fascinating. Carlos came out like he was going to steamroll Rune. Won his first nine service points, I believe.

                          Then Rune changed the pace, hit some 100 MPH first serves, took MPHs off his forehand. Rune said later, he was trying to recall how Djokovic beat Alcaraz in the Olympics. Also, Rune, who is a very good returner, started getting a bead on Carlos seconds and really hitting out on returns.

                          Worked. Carlos got impatient, started leaking UFEs. Then in the first set tiebreak, Carlos was ahead, Rune switched back and started going for it. Worked again.

                          Good highlights from Tennis TV via YT here. 8 minutes but doesn't really show the flow of the match.

                          Last edited by jimlosaltos; 04-21-2025, 03:22 PM.

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                          • stotty
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 6634

                            #14
                            Thanks. The highlights are breathtaking...both players. In the section of the match I saw, I have never seen Rune play that well and with such focus. He could be really good if he applied himself like that all the time.
                            Stotty

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                            • jimlosaltos
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 4150

                              #15
                              Originally posted by glacierguy
                              Did anyone hear what Alcaraz's injury was in second set of final? Or was he just trying to change the rhythm of the match?
                              In case you missed it, Alcaraz had both abductor and upper leg injuries. Out of Madrid.

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