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  • roartt
    Member
    • May 2007
    • 32

    #1

    Hewitt backhand?

    I understand that it's his weaker side, but how good is it compared to other pro BH's?
  • uspta2756694861
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    • Jun 2007
    • 3

    #2
    Hewitt's Backhand

    Originally posted by roartt
    I understand that it's his weaker side, but how good is it compared to other pro BH's?
    It is relatively ineffective because he has the same basic biomechanical flaw that Roddick has which is a non-dominant arm which is straight or "locked out" at the completion of the backwswing. This reduces his racquet head speed and results in a significant "power drain." Another major player who suffered from this same problem was Michael Chang.

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    • BrianGordon
      Senior Member
      • May 2005
      • 285

      #3
      Originally posted by uspta2756694861
      It is relatively ineffective because he has the same basic biomechanical flaw that Roddick has which is a non-dominant arm which is straight or "locked out" at the completion of the backwswing. This reduces his racquet head speed and results in a significant "power drain." Another major player who suffered from this same problem was Michael Chang.
      It must just be me due to the lack of response, but I don't understand why it is a Biomechanical flaw, nor why it would reduce racquet head speed (at contact?) - please enlighten.

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      • uspta146749877
        Guest
        • Jun 2007
        • 827

        #4
        BACKHAND of NABALDIAN

        Originally posted by BrianGordon
        It must just be me due to the lack of response, but I don't understand why it is a Biomechanical flaw, nor why it would reduce racquet head speed (at contact?) - please enlighten.
        A bit related issue:
        I was trying to see
        https://www.tennisplayer.net/tp_play...id-nalbandian/
        for Nabaldian
        but clicking overthere does NOT bring pictures.
        Trying to bring Hewitt strokes does NOT work either
        please click
        https://www.tennisplayer.net/tp_player/lleyton-hewitt/
        Last edited by uspta146749877; 03-19-2008, 03:37 AM.

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        • uspta146749877
          Guest
          • Jun 2007
          • 827

          #5
          Please compare with Nabaldian

          Originally posted by uspta2756694861
          It is relatively ineffective because he has the same basic biomechanical flaw that Roddick has which is a non-dominant arm which is straight or "locked out" at the completion of the backwswing. This reduces his racquet head speed and results in a significant "power drain." Another major player who suffered from this same problem was Michael Chang.
          Please drop a line comparing with Nabaldian

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          • uspta146749877
            Guest
            • Jun 2007
            • 827

            #6
            Please see Nabaldian-Archive Strokes

            Originally posted by roartt
            I understand that it's his weaker side, but how good is it compared to other pro BH's?
            Please see Nabaldian-probably the best -see the Master Series two years
            ago vs Federer

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            • John Yandell
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2005
              • 6883

              #7
              Both the above links are working fine.

              Roddick's lower or right hand grip is the weakness and the relative lack of an inside out swing. Hewitt is stronger with the grip. Doubt the straight arm Hewitt talk back is relevant. His swing pattern forward is great and he is straight/bent.

              At some point it's ability not technique. Nalbandian has some of that.
              Last edited by John Yandell; 03-19-2008, 07:14 AM.

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              • uspta146749877
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                • Jun 2007
                • 827

                #8
                a lower hand grip of Hewitt

                Originally posted by uspta2756694861
                It is relatively ineffective because he has the same basic biomechanical flaw that Roddick has which is a non-dominant arm which is straight or "locked out" at the completion of the backwswing. This reduces his racquet head speed and results in a significant "power drain." Another major player who suffered from this same problem was Michael Chang.
                Do you see what is a lower hand grip of Hewitt?
                Is it continental?
                See John Yandell above about Roddick as well.

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                • roartt
                  Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 32

                  #9
                  thank you guys for pointing out things around this topic. It just seems to me as if Hewitts backhand is a little idle. It looks like a big struggle and never gets any good pace or angles.

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                  • brett701
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                    • Mar 2008
                    • 44

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BrianGordon
                    It must just be me due to the lack of response, but I don't understand why it is a Biomechanical flaw, nor why it would reduce racquet head speed (at contact?) - please enlighten.
                    I believe locked out right arm on the 2 hander requires much better timing and allows for less power.

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                    • brett701
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 44

                      #11
                      Originally posted by johnyandell
                      Both the above links are working fine.

                      Roddick's lower or right hand grip is the weakness and the relative lack of an inside out swing. Hewitt is stronger with the grip. Doubt the straight arm Hewitt talk back is relevant. His swing pattern forward is great and he is straight/bent.

                      At some point it's ability not technique. Nalbandian has some of that.
                      I think the straight arm take back is relevant. I agree with everything else you've stated.

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                      • BrianGordon
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2005
                        • 285

                        #12
                        Originally posted by brett701
                        I believe locked out right arm on the 2 hander requires much better timing
                        If we assume this is true, it does not seem to rise to the level of a Biomechanical flaw.

                        Originally posted by brett701
                        and allows for less power.
                        This is what the poster said - my question was why?

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                        • uspta146749877
                          Guest
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 827

                          #13
                          Aerodynamics?

                          Originally posted by BrianGordon
                          If we assume this is true, it does not seem to rise to the level of a Biomechanical flaw.



                          This is what the poster said - my question was why?
                          Does anyone consider a possible reasoning that
                          one is more "aerodynamical" than another?

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                          • brett701
                            Guest
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 44

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BrianGordon
                            If we assume this is true, it does not seem to rise to the level of a Biomechanical flaw.



                            This is what the poster said - my question was why?
                            I believe that it allows for the arms to move faster when bent. Think about it this way. When sprinters race they dont start with their legs stiff-- they bend them because it will be faster/easier to accelerate. Also i think it gives you more variety for timing the ball if you are slightly late or slightly early. What do you think?

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                            • BrianGordon
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2005
                              • 285

                              #15
                              I guess I’m not clear based on your analogy whether you are making an inertia argument (the swing leg of the sprinter) or a range of motion argument (the driving leg of the sprinter) – while radically different, either could work in the right circumstance as part of the answer.

                              As to whether the straight bottom arm is a net advantage to racquet speed (power) or not, the contact configuration needs to be taken into account. Based on my experience and logic the straight position at the start of the forward swing would have the following effect based on contact organization:

                              Straight/Bent: net benefit to contact racquet speed.
                              Bent/Bent: net detriment to contact racquet speed.
                              Straight/Straight: could go either way.

                              Because these different configurations significantly alter the way the joint rotation components contribute to racquet speed, some (so) targeted thought may shed light on this summary. The related issues of joint range of motion, muscle conditions, muscle development and type, etc. need also to be considered in this context.

                              In other words, full explanation would require a full article with quantitative information, pretty pictures, and so on – an article I hope to do in the not too distant future. At that point you can decide if my conclusions are valid or bunk.

                              Until then, I like the direction of your thinking (at least what I think you are saying).

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