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  • John Yandell
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 6883

    #1231
    That would be a hard one to answer. I doubt Milos was a nobody. He probably came up thru the ITF tournaments like all the top pros, but I don't know what his numbers were.

    Obviously he has a huge game. We've looked at his serve already in the Forum:


    We'll eventually put up his whole game in the Archives. But watching him play in person the other thing that is apparent with him is how calm and positive he stays in tough matches.

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    • gsheiner
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2005
      • 143

      #1232
      John,

      If you do get a chance to film Milos, perhaps you can get some footage of his backhand return.

      It's his big weakness IMO, and maybe you could compare his technique to other top returners and see if you can find any technical flaws. I'm actually not sure if his problem is technical or tactical ( ?stands too deep and not fast enough to cover the next shot to his forehand corner) but it would be interesting to look at.

      The article might turn out like the article you did on Roddick's backhand, which turned out to be incredibly instructive.

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      • John Yandell
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2005
        • 6883

        #1233
        GS,

        Good idea. We've been slowly building up our footage of him.

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        • jryle1
          • Mar 2010
          • 112

          #1234
          Originally posted by johnyandell
          For everyone--yes! That's exactly what the clips are for. To help players and coaches. The only limitation is that they cannot be uploaded onto a public web site.

          The human eye is 20 fps, about. The contact is 1/250 of a sec. The human eye is about 10 times too slow to see what really happens. But 250fps video has the ball on the strings on every shot. 500fps even better.

          Just wondering about the human eye idea. Is that scientifically proven? I was just researching it on google and like tennis technique there seems to be a lot of debate about it on a couple of different sites I checked out!

          Also, Happy New Year, hope you had a great christmas and hears to a great year of tennis and tennis research/study!

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          • stotty
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 6630

            #1235
            Motion Pro

            John,

            I was thinking of buying Motion Pro. Isn't that the software you use? I'll assume it's a good product if so. Let me know...

            Dartfish is great but expensive...
            Stotty

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            • gsheiner
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2005
              • 143

              #1236
              Stotty,

              Before you spend any money , have a look at Kinovea which is a free open source software which can do many of the things that Motion pro and Dartfish do.

              Glenn

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              • John Yandell
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 6883

                #1237
                Jon,

                I am not an eye doctor that's just what I have been told by experts.

                Stotty, Glenn,

                I just use Quick Time--for side by side you don't really need anything else.

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                • lobndropshot
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 381

                  #1238
                  my .02

                  I am sure that I can see the ball on the racket at contact. But, I cannot see the detail that can be seen when I am watching again in high-speed.

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                  • stotty
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 6630

                    #1239
                    Originally posted by gsheiner
                    Stotty,

                    Before you spend any money , have a look at Kinovea which is a free open source software which can do many of the things that Motion pro and Dartfish do.

                    Glenn
                    Thanks, I'll take a look. I'd like to be able to measure angles...and overlap one clip over another. It's all about speed. When you have dozens of students, you need to be able to cut, paste, add lines and circles, and edit darn quick...a purpose-build product is what I need...something dead easy is to use. Not sure Quicktime can do all I need.
                    Stotty

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                    • John Yandell
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 6883

                      #1240
                      Stotty,

                      Nope if you want lines and circles, etc then it's not QT. So far as the cut and paste though definitely. QT Pro that is. This is the same program for downloading the archive files on the site.

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                      • julian1
                        Guest
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 433

                        #1241
                        Flip for backhand?

                        Dear Mr Yandell,
                        could you look at

                        Does it make any sense to talk about "Flip" for backhand?
                        Thank you

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                        • John Yandell
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 6883

                          #1242
                          Not sure. Brian G. will eventually be getting into that so I am going to leave that for him to explain. Once I understand what he thinks maybe I can answer...

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                          • julian1
                            Guest
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 433

                            #1243
                            Thank you

                            Originally posted by johnyandell
                            Not sure. Brian G. will eventually be getting into that so I am going to leave that for him to explain. Once I understand what he thinks maybe I can answer...
                            Thank you
                            I have thought the topic is interesting
                            possible videos


                            Regards,
                            Julian
                            Last edited by julian1; 02-08-2013, 05:32 PM.

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                            • John Yandell
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 6883

                              #1244
                              Julian,

                              Forget about that YouTube footage--look at the incredible stuff in the High Speed Archive! You can see dozens there that bear on this point and see the flip frame by frame...

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                              • alexandrafranco
                                Guest
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 43

                                #1245
                                Mobile app

                                When do you expect to have the mobile app out? Very curious to see the Macci fh article you said you are keeping for the app.thank you

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