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  • John Yandell
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 6883

    #796
    Still very hard to see without frame by frame. But I would suggest visualizing your torso landing completely straight up and down and your front toes pointing still somewhat toward the sideline to your right--or at least toward the net--then combine that with the other image I gave you of the foot kicking back so you show the sole of your foot to the back fence.

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    • gzhpcu
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2005
      • 3211

      #797
      John,
      I know I keep coming back to this, but ever consider doing an indepth article dedicated solely to the toss on the serve? In particular, placement and consequences?
      Regards, Phil

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      • John Yandell
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2005
        • 6883

        #798
        Yeah I hope to touch on that in the continuation of the Federer high speed serve video analysis series...definitely a very tricky topic.

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        • gzhpcu
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2005
          • 3211

          #799
          John,
          Watching the masters match Roddick - Nadal, I noticed that Nadal was practically only using the reverse finish on his forehands. Never saw any other player use it so much. You mentioned this in your Advanced Tennis section article on Nadal's forehand. Do you feel he was doing it that much (more than usual for him, it seemed to me), to get more of a high bounce due to the surface, which is detrimental to his topspin?
          Regards, Phil

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          • John Yandell
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2005
            • 6883

            #800
            Great question but I am not sure. Our previous filming showed no big difference over a couple of dozen examples in the spin--maybe we'll find one later in new matches. It helps him defend when he is running like a maniac? Again one of those msyteries that everyone has opinions about.

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            • rosheem
              Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 97

              #801
              Can't find October 2010 Issue

              John,

              The 10/10 issue is not showing up in the "Past Issues" link.

              Quite possible I might be missing something since I've just returned, but I wanted to check with you.

              Thanks!

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              • John Yandell
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 6883

                #802
                Yep! We'll get that up soon.

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                • thad
                  Guest
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 2

                  #803
                  serve

                  in the power serve by burce elliott pt 1 pg 1
                  in the section on leg drive
                  remember, you do not jumb off the ground under any circumstances
                  you drive yourself off the ground

                  what is the diffrence between jumping off the ground
                  and drive yourself off the ground

                  thanks

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                  • John Yandell
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 6883

                    #804
                    If you have a deep kneel coil and then focus on the racket path to the ball, you will just explode off the ground as opposed to any conscious jump.

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                    • alexandrafranco
                      Guest
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 43

                      #805
                      Slice serve

                      Hi John,
                      What is the main difference in racquet path to serve slice as opposed to the flat serve? how do we achieve this? By remaining more sideways at contact?or pronating later?or...?PS-Is there any article on the site that i could check?
                      Thanks.alexandra

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                      • John Yandell
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 6883

                        #806
                        Well there is no such thing as a "flat" serve literally, or shouldn't be. The differences are all slight variations in the way the racket head approaches the ball--not something I think you can control with the legs, torso etc.

                        A little more across (more slice)

                        A little more up (more topspin)

                        A little more straight thru (flatter)

                        You can see this in the Pete Sampras animations we posted a while back in the forum.

                        If you read the recent Federer serve article you know this is something I plan to revisit in the future with the new footage.

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                        • alexandrafranco
                          Guest
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 43

                          #807
                          Sampras animations

                          John,
                          Thank you!
                          I have been going back on all your forum threads but can't find the Sampras animations.Could you please tell me where they are.
                          Thank you,
                          Alexandra

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                          • uspta4201423750
                            Guest
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 51

                            #808
                            grips

                            Hey John, just wondering if there were anything out there as a definitive source of info about professional players' grips--specifically the left hand on the 2handed backhand: Nadal, Murray, Daveydenko, Nalbandian and the williams sisters are the ones I'm interested in. My son's pro wants to switch him from a semiwestern forehand grip with his left hand to an eastern forehand grip. I like the semiwest and so does everyone else on the forehand, why not the backhand? What do you think?

                            Thanks, Harry Kingsley

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                            • John Yandell
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 6883

                              #809
                              Most players with two handers are more conservative on the backhand side for a reason. The shot is hit flatter with more spin and also at lower contact heights. Hingis was the exception, Venus may be that way somewhat as well. Everyone else is somewhere between a mild continental and at most an extreme eastern. I agree with the coach.
                              But some version of a backhand grip with the bottom hand is also critical.

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                              • uspta990770809
                                Guest
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 236

                                #810
                                What about that bottom hand?

                                Originally posted by johnyandell
                                Most players with two handers are more conservative on the backhand side for a reason. The shot is hit flatter with more spin and also at lower contact heights. Hingis was the exception, Venus may be that way somewhat as well. Everyone else is somewhere between a mild continental and at most an extreme eastern. I agree with the coach.
                                But some version of a backhand grip with the bottom hand is also critical.
                                What I try to get my players to do is right in line with what you are saying here. What I find more difficulty with is the players who are ok with the top hand, but have learned to hit a decent 2hbh very little change in the bottom hand beyond maybe an Eastern forehand. I try to get them to change at least to a continental, preferably somewhere between a continental and an Eastern backhand, but as a minimum between an Eastern forehand and a continental. But somethimes they are already having some success with that Eastern forehand on the bottom hand even though it puts them through positions which I consider biomechanically unsustainable in the long run. I.E. They will end up with injuries to their wrists. What is the reality about how many of the good pro 2hbhs are hit without moving that bottom hand over to at least a continental.

                                thanks,
                                don

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