Agassi and Murray

[gzhpcu]

Neither of them fully pronate on the serve. Instead of the racket face looking towards the side fence after impact, it looks downward. Wonder why?

[gzhpcu]

Answering my own question.... seems like they are not hitting across the ball...

[tennis_chiro]

Not quite

Answering my own question.... seems like they are not hitting across the ball...

Perhaps, but without that pronation in the followthrough, they are not going to get as much internal rotation. Without the release afforded by that pronation, a server could actually break the wrist or forearm because of the sudden stop at the end of the motion if they could not release it with that pronation move.

At least that's what I concluded when John and Brian's high speed work showed that there is not actual wrist pronation or forearm pronation prior to contact.

don

[julian1]

I gotch you

Perhaps, but without that pronation in the followthrough, they are not going to get as much internal rotation. Without the release afforded by that pronation, a server could actually break the wrist or forearm because of the sudden stop at the end of the motion if they could not release it with that pronation move.

At least that's what I concluded when John and Brian's high speed work showed that there is not actual wrist pronation or forearm pronation prior to contact.

don

Please put your post in a John's section AS WELL.
Warning #1

julian mielniczuk
uspta certified pro juliantennis@comcast.net
www.julianmielniczuk.usptapro.com Courtside Tennis Club,Bedford,MA
Ph. D, a Team Babolat Member

[gzhpcu]

What's with this "Warning #1" and "gotcha" business?

You think you are a moderator or something?

[llll]

Please put your post in a John's section AS WELL.
Warning #1

julian mielniczuk
uspta certified pro juliantennis@comcast.net
www.julianmielniczuk.usptapro.com Courtside Tennis Club,Bedford,MA
Ph. D, a Team Babolat Member

julian first of all
WHATS YOUR WARNING???
second i have never seen you voice an opinion
tell us whats the warning??
i dare you

[gzhpcu]

And what's with the MA and PhD business?

Do I have to start posting my engineering and physics titles as well?

[julian1]

I amin Canada

I am in Canada attending an Eskimo Tennis Convention.
I will deal with you guys later.

[John Yandell]

Julian

Uh Julian, if this is really you and not someone in Canada who highjacked your login (we could only hope) you owe everyone is this Forum an immediate apology.

You are not the moderator and I must agree that your presence here would be much better if you voiced opinions instead of dancing around and pointing fingers. I don't need nor want you directing traffic.

I am serious about this so please respond or there will be consequences.

John Yandell

[julian1]

It was a joke between Don and me

Uh Julian, if this is really you and not someone in Canada who highjacked your login (we could only hope) you owe everyone is this Forum an immediate apology.

You are not the moderator and I must agree that your presence here would be much better if you voiced opinions instead of dancing around and pointing fingers. I don't need nor want you directing traffic.

I am serious about this so please respond or there will be consequences.

John Yandell

John,
It was a internal oke between Don and me.
It was related to our discussion of a toss of serve.
It was a response to his previous remark.
You may ask Don.

I apologize

[John Yandell]

No it was not internal it was a public post. It is not within your authority to warn anyone about anything. So knock that attitude off please.

[John Yandell]

Hey Phil,
Tried to email you but it bounced back. Want to send me one at videotennis@metric.mail.com

John Yandell

[gzhpcu]

Just sent you an email John...

[gzhpcu]

John, your email address had an error.

No "." between "metric" and "mail"...

[John Yandell]

Bad typing...