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  • gzhpcu
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 3211

    #16
    Originally posted by johnyandell
    Phil,
    Thanks! Do you get an arrow to click on???
    John
    No, got no arrow, just all blank
    Regards, Phil

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    • bottle
      Guest
      • Mar 2005
      • 6472

      #17
      Originally posted by don_budge
      When I watch the right handed one hand backhand…at some point when viewing it, it seems to me that I am viewing a left hand backhand from a rear view. Anyone else get that impression? It's an odd sensation.
      I get it when I watch the right handed forehand. Suddenly it's left handed. Interesting how the other guys talk over this.

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      • don_budge
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 6994

        #18
        I get it...

        Originally posted by bottle
        I get it when I watch the right handed forehand. Suddenly it's left handed. Interesting how the other guys talk over this.
        That is so cool…I actually looked for it but didn't see it initially on the forehand. Suddenly there it was. Sometimes I seem to miss it and see it from the "correct perspective". So how does one go about explaining that little visual anomaly. Brian Gordon?
        don_budge
        Performance Analysthttps://www.tennisplayer.net/bulleti...ilies/cool.png

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        • John Yandell
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2005
          • 6883

          #19
          So you guys caught that right? Before I edited it to merge the three it was really trippy. Sometimes you see it one way and some times the other.

          Brian tried to explain it to me but apparently it went right over my head something about three dimensional something... I see if he can drop it and educate us.

          I like it because it's evocative and mesmerizing.
          Last edited by John Yandell; 08-30-2015, 08:57 AM.

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          • stotty
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 6630

            #20
            Originally posted by don_budge
            That is so cool…I actually looked for it but didn't see it initially on the forehand. Suddenly there it was. Sometimes I seem to miss it and see it from the "correct perspective". So how does one go about explaining that little visual anomaly. Brian Gordon?
            Originally posted by don_budge
            When I watch the right handed one hand backhand…at some point when viewing it, it seems to me that I am viewing a left hand backhand from a rear view. Anyone else get that impression? It's an odd sensation.
            I have to say this is all a bit strange. I thought you two were going a bit peculiar on me....then I saw it too...on the backhand....then on the forehand. I keep looking at the two-handed guy assuming it must happen a some stage or other to him too. It's all a bit mesmerising...
            Stotty

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            • BrianGordon
              Senior Member
              • May 2005
              • 285

              #21
              Wireframe Depictions

              Hi All -

              The programs that generate the wireframe representations were coded many years ago. At that time I was using film 3D reconstruction so did not have the information to track head rotations - so... the head simply faces the same direction as the upper third of the torso and NOT its actual orientation. From a purely mechanical perspective it is not that important to me so I have not gotten around to changing it even though I now have that information - lazy.

              The forehand and bh1 are the same male player - a lefty with the view shown from behind for both strokes. The bh2 is a girl righty seen from a perfect side view of the hitting side. Though many have tried, it is impossible to know if one is viewing a righty from in front or a lefty from behind unless that information is given - the wires do not allow a perspective of the dimension into and out of the screen. It is a bit of a mind blower .
              Last edited by BrianGordon; 08-30-2015, 10:25 AM.

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              • klacr
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 2900

                #22
                Originally posted by BrianGordon
                Hi All -

                The programs that generate the wireframe representations were coded many years ago. At that time I was using film 3D reconstruction so did not have the information to track head rotations - so... the head simply faces the same direction as the upper third of the torso and NOT its actual orientation. From a purely mechanical perspective it is not that important to me so I have not gotten around to changing it even though I now have that information - lazy.

                The forehand and bh1 are the same male player - a lefty with the view shown from behind for both strokes. The bh2 is a girl righty seen from a perfect side view of the hitting side. Though many have tried, it is impossible to know if one is viewing a righty from in front or a lefty from behind unless that information is given - the wires do not allow a perspective of the dimension into and out of the screen. It is a bit of a mind blower .
                Mind is blown. I'm not smart enough to figure it out.
                on another note, I'm 8 minutes away from where Brian works. I'm long overdue for a visit and vice versa.

                Kyle LaCroix USPTA
                Boca Raton

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                • eaglesburg
                  Guest
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 182

                  #23
                  It's pretty cool. But yeah the head looks like it is moving early. Also it might be better with the real video included and also the ability to play and pause through them.

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                  • don_budge
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 6994

                    #24
                    Screen Saver...

                    Originally posted by BrianGordon
                    Though many have tried, it is impossible to know if one is viewing a righty from in front or a lefty from behind unless that information is given - the wires do not allow a perspective of the dimension into and out of the screen. It is a bit of a mind blower .
                    It would make a great screen saver with a view of the forehand and the backhand at the same time…maybe back to back or would that be face to face? Get the picture?
                    don_budge
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                    • BrianGordon
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2005
                      • 285

                      #25
                      Originally posted by klacr
                      Mind is blown. I'm not smart enough to figure it out.
                      on another note, I'm 8 minutes away from where Brian works. I'm long overdue for a visit and vice versa.

                      Kyle LaCroix USPTA
                      Boca Raton
                      Hi Kyle - shoot me an email. I'd enjoy stopping in to visit your facility - I've heard it is quite nice.

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                      • gzhpcu
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 3211

                        #26
                        Now the figure appears: but does not move.... (IPad)
                        Regards, Phil

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                        • John Yandell
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 6883

                          #27
                          Well that's something...it took it a while to move on my iphone...but even if it doesn't it still looks pretty good...will keep on it...

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                          • gzhpcu
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 3211

                            #28
                            Works fine on iPad now...
                            Regards, Phil

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                            • stotty
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 6630

                              #29
                              Works fine on my Android phone...
                              Stotty

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