2021 Roland Garros...ATP 2000...Paris, France

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  • stroke
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 5156

    #166
    Oddsmakers now have Novak the favorite at 62% implied probability of winning. On a side note, it may take a situation like this to expose the shamdemic for what it is.

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    • stroke
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 5156

      #167
      That 3rd set was one of the best sets of tennis I have ever seen.

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      • arturohernandez
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 1094

        #168
        Originally posted by stroke
        That 3rd set was one of the best sets of tennis I have ever seen.
        Reminds me of the 2008 Wimbledon final.

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        • stotty
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 6630

          #169
          Okay 2-2 in the fourth. Who's your money on?
          Stotty

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          • stotty
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 6630

            #170
            Novak is locking down...
            Stotty

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            • stroke
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 5156

              #171
              I love locking down Novak. I would just like to see more of that.

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              • stotty
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 6630

                #172
                Originally posted by stroke
                I love locking down Novak. I would just like to see more of that.
                And he's entering a state of deep calm. He could sneak it right here in the fourth.
                Stotty

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                • stotty
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 6630

                  #173
                  Monumental performance...knew he could do it...never lost faith.
                  Stotty

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                  • stroke
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 5156

                    #174
                    There is just nothing like Novak in the mood.

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                    • jthb1021
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 117

                      #175
                      Not only did he beat Nadal he got him to give up! He crushed Nadal’s fighting spirit even with a super pro Rafa crowd. Amazing!

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                      • arturohernandez
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1094

                        #176
                        Nadal is playing differently than he used to. He has to win inside the court and shorten points. This works against almost everyone. Novak is not everyone. I think he is the only one to have beaten Rafa twice on clay at RG. Is that right?

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                        • arturohernandez
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1094

                          #177
                          Sounds like a mix between French and Italian but hey, at least he is trying.

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                          • stroke
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 5156

                            #178
                            And I have always felt of the 3 greatest players of all time, Novak is truly the most likeable and personable. They are all great guys, but Novak to me has always stood out. The fact that he has never gotten the crowd love of the other 2 just makes it more so.

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                            • stotty
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 6630

                              #179
                              Originally posted by jthb1021
                              Not only did he beat Nadal he got him to give up! He crushed Nadal’s fighting spirit even with a super pro Rafa crowd. Amazing!
                              Tend to agree in a sense. I felt Rafa didn't exactly give up, it was more a case of his game collapsed. Novak sensed victory and went into a state of deep calm around 3-2 in the fourth. I knew then it was all over.
                              Stotty

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                              • arturohernandez
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 1094

                                #180
                                Originally posted by stotty

                                Tend to agree in a sense. I felt Rafa didn't exactly give up, it was more a case of his game collapsed. Novak sensed victory and went into a state of deep calm around 3-2 in the fourth. I knew then it was all over.
                                There was an article about how Rafa had to become more aggressive and try and play inside the court more to shorten points. This is a similar story to what Federer had to do and what Novak will probably have to do as well.

                                The problem for Novak and Rafa is that their games are not as well suited to shortening points. I think Novak has a better chance on hard courts where he can take the ball early and create pressure. But you can only fight back father time so long.

                                Federer already had a game more amenable to shortening points. So it was easier for him to adapt and he also changed rackets.

                                Nadal may not be able to keep playing long matches going forward.

                                Novak looked great today but he has to play someone 10 years younger on Sunday who has a lot less miles.

                                It will be interesting to see if Stefanos can grind Novak down. Not sure Novak is quite there yet.

                                Sorry, to leave Fed off the list but he may get a couple more runs at Wimbledon but will have a hard time winning outside of that.

                                You can only beat back father time so long.

                                Just wondering. How long do you think that Novak and Rafa can stay near the top?

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