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  • stroke
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 5156

    #2071
    Originally posted by stotty
    Nadal's Forehand Grip

    I was reading the Tennisplayer article on Nadal's forehand (in Advanced Tennis). Do you still think Nadal's heel pad is broaching level bevel 5? When I saw him last from fairly close range it didn't seem that far round? The heel pad is also tricky reference point when the heel pad itself hanging so far off the grip, as is the case with many players, not just Nadal.

    I made Nadal plumb on bevel 4.

    One thing I like about Verdasco is all his hand sits on the grip with nothing hanging over the edge.

    Stotty
    I agree with you about Nadal. In fact, I have always kind of felt that Nadal is about a strong of a semi western grip that one could have and be able to hit with an extended elbow straight arm forehand. I actually think his heel pad kind of off the end of the butt of the grip may play into his hitting configration also. Players that have as strong a semi western as Novak, Sock, and Kyrgios I really don't think could really work an extended elbow forehand.

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    • stotty
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 6630

      #2072
      Originally posted by stroke

      I agree with you about Nadal. In fact, I have always kind of felt that Nadal is about a strong of a semi western grip that one could have and be able to hit with an extended elbow straight arm forehand. I actually think his heel pad kind of off the end of the butt of the grip may play into his hitting configration also. Players that have as strong a semi western as Novak, Sock, and Kyrgios I really don't think could really work an extended elbow forehand.
      I stand by what I saw. I made him firmly on bevel 4. Forget knuckles as a definite reference point because all of us have different shaped hands and length of fingers and our own unique way of gripping. The heel pad matters most. It's the reference point that is the same for all of us. I made Nadal's heel bang on bevel 4 so quite a way off full western. His grip is not as far round as some people think.

      Nadal's is a bit scary when when being escorted by officials to a match at Wimbledon. You instinctively know you can't approach him. He's focused and would probably punch your lights out if you asked him about his grip. But away from the match scenario he's a very nice man. I would have no hesitation in asking him about his grip if I caught him after a practice session. I just know he would be happy to show me or anyone his grip. I cannot believe no one has yet approached him about it. Looks like I might have to be the first.
      Stotty

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      • John Yandell
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2005
        • 6883

        #2073
        Do it!

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        • stroke
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 5156

          #2074
          Agree with you completely about Nadal heel pad on bevel 4 and also about the heel pad placement on grip being the most important indicator on one's grip. I think Fed is about a 3.5 there.

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          • John Yandell
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2005
            • 6883

            #2075
            Stroke,
            You guys are probably right. I had him I think about a 4 1 / 2. But the index knuckle on 5 makes a difference. Changes the angle of the palm across the grip handle.

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            • kwilkinson
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 17

              #2076
              Hey John, still can't access any videos on the Sampras 2-step volley lesson. Been trying every couple of weeks since I last notified you

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              • kwilkinson
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 17

                #2077
                Tried to access the videos on the lacroix serve volley stuff but they don't work either. I'm using my iPad

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                • John Yandell
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 6883

                  #2078
                  What device are you on?? What browser?

                  Here is the Two Step and I see it fine:
                  https://www.tennisplayer.net/members...ep_volley.html

                  Here is one of Kyle's again, looks good!
                  Serve and volley: a viable, underutilized strategy for all players at all levels. In this series I've shared my personal journey in becoming a serve and volley player and outlined the teaching components I have developed to teach it to others. It's currently a minority view, but I remain convinced serve and volley is an...


                  Is there one you can see?
                  Last edited by John Yandell; 05-06-2017, 10:23 PM.

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                  • kwilkinson
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 17

                    #2079
                    I'm on my iPad with safari as the browser

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                    • kwilkinson
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 17

                      #2080
                      Looks like the lacroix is working off your link, but the Sampras still doesn't work even off your link.

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                      • John Yandell
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 6883

                        #2081
                        It works fine on Safari for me. I don't have an ipad. Did you turn off private browsing in the Safari settings?

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                        • kwilkinson
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 17

                          #2082
                          Still doesn't work

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                          • John Yandell
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 6883

                            #2083
                            Look on something other than an ipad...but I think you got the email that we are going to update the code for the ipad...

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                            • stotty
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 6630

                              #2084
                              John

                              I am trying to compare racket drops of certain players. When I try to access the Roddick serve archive, the movie window says I need to install a missing Quicktime plugin. Is this right? With Roger and Sampras the clips just played normally on my screen. Why not Roddick?
                              Stotty

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                              • John Yandell
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 6883

                                #2085
                                Stotty,
                                Weird. He works for me in both regular and high speed. How about a url?
                                John

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