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  • John Yandell
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 6883

    #2236
    You are supposed to put him on your ignore list.

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    • stotty
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 6630

      #2237
      Which one is true continental?

      I refer to these articles on the backhand slice:

      https://www.tennisplayer.net/members...ing_Grips.html

      https://www.tennisplayer.net/members...and_slice.html


      In the photo in Scott's article, the heel of the hand is not plumb on bevel one. The photo may not be ideal to view this precisely, but nevertheless you can still ascertain by looking at the hand that the heel pad must be breaching bevel 2 also.

      In Kerry's photo the heel pad in definitely plumb on bevel 1. Again the photo doesn't provide a definitive view but you can see there is difference between one man's version of the grip and another man's.

      I am guessing Scott's version is correct because you can also hit a forehand drive with that grip whereas with Kerry's version you are going to struggle. I say this because, back in the day, many players used a continental and nothing else, hence they must have used Scott's version.

      If I had to single out the most determining feature of a grip, it would be the heel pad.

      So what is the true continental grip? It has to be Scott's, right? Kerry's would be more apt for the serve, smash and backhand volley?
      Stotty

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      • John Yandell
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2005
        • 6883

        #2238
        Stotty,
        Great question... I think that as long as we use terms like "Continental" there will always be slight differences in definition. Kerry's view to me is slightly stronger as you say than Scott's. You can hit a slice with either but I like the slightly less strong version.

        My analysis:
        The pro backhand slice - more spin than the fiercest forehands. In the first article in this series, we looked at the astounding levels of spin on the pro slice backhand. We determined that slice backhands were actually spinning as fast, and usually faster, than even the fiercest topspin forehands. (Click Here.) Looking at dozens...

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        • stotty
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 6630

          #2239
          In 'The Lessons of Pancho Segura' can you slow that clip down at the bottom of the article. It's running like a Charlie Chaplin movie on steroids.

          Sorry ignore this message. it seems to running at normal speed now...weird.
          Last edited by stotty; 07-08-2018, 01:45 PM.
          Stotty

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          • John Yandell
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2005
            • 6883

            #2240
            Hey they play at high speed!

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            • ferli001
              Member
              • Apr 2018
              • 48

              #2241
              Hi John,
              I had an idea that it might be very useful to the viewer, like me, who likes to browse through videos and lessons, to be able to add a bookmarks or add the page to a list of "favorites" so that when I want to return to the video I can just look it up at my marked sites -- rather than remembering where I found it -- but I don't know if and how this might be done since I am no techy. Its just a thought

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              • John Yandell
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 6883

                #2242
                Good thought. We are in the middle of a big conversion to a friendlier mobile so not something we can think about now. Why not just copy the url and past it somewhere though?

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                • ferli001
                  Member
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 48

                  #2243
                  Right, hadn't thought about that .

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                  • stotty
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 6630

                    #2244
                    John

                    If a player closes the stance on a backhand, does it give greater power than one struck off a neutral stance, due to more coiling and rotation? I realise stances are situational but just wondered which gives the greater payload on a backhand.
                    Stotty

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                    • John Yandell
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 6883

                      #2245
                      Apparently yes. You see elite players work hard to create that cross over closed stance and you can actually see more hip and shoulder rotation in the high speed videos. As Kerry has pointed out though lower level players should work on the outside leg set up and coiling-- and then they are in great position to step neutral with great alignment and effect.

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                      • stotty
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 6630

                        #2246
                        Originally posted by johnyandell
                        Stotty,
                        Great question... I think that as long as we use terms like "Continental" there will always be slight differences in definition. Kerry's view to me is slightly stronger as you say than Scott's. You can hit a slice with either but I like the slightly less strong version.

                        My analysis:
                        https://www.tennisplayer.net/article...-slice-part-2/
                        It's a good article, thank you.

                        I have a girl whose heel pad is edging towards bevel 8. It seems to inhibit a correct, flowing follow-through. Do find this is the case with players you've come across?
                        Stotty

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                        • John Yandell
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 6883

                          #2247
                          I would agree with you. Too far.

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                          • seano
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 506

                            #2248
                            John -

                            Is there an affordable device that measures rpm (spin rates) on shots like the pocket radar does for mph?

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                            • John Yandell
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 6883

                              #2249
                              You can do it with a casio or other high speed camera that records at 240 frames and has a shutter. But you have to manually count the rotations and do a little algebra. I do it all the time. Although Play Sight comes up with rotation output when Brian and I tested it against the camera it was correct or close on maybe 50-60% of shots only

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                              • seano
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 506

                                #2250
                                Thanks

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